Does Ground Zero Need a Mosque?

By Adele

I’ll probably never agree with Sarah Palin ever again, but since she has stuck her nose into the controversy over the proposed mosque two blocks from Ground Zero, so will I. But I have different reasons for thinking it’s a bad idea — and a way to make it right.

Palin, never one to miss an opportunity to sow divisiveness and offer no solutions, recently tweeted New Yorkers to “refudiate” the mosque.

I don’t buy the blather about this mosque “strengthening ties,” either. It smells more like a nose-thumbing, “We’ve got the cash and we’ll build a mosque wherever we damn well please,” attitude.

But I’d think the same if it were a cathedral. And I have to ask…

WHEN are humans going to give up this team sport called “Religion?” It makes you start wars and kill each other every day. It’s your excuse to claim superiority to others who are NO DIFFERENT from you.

Animals have never needed religion. Do you see cats and dogs trying to wipe each other out because we don’t think or look exactly the same? It’s just not done in the animal world. The very notion is absurd.

People, you need to take this page from our playbook.

If the Muslims were building a generic-looking place where anybody could go for food, shelter, exercise, entertainment, fellowship, counseling, help of any kind, nobody would be upset.

That’s what people should do with EVERY church, synagogue, and mosque in the world. Turn them into simple havens of help and healing without the praying, sermonizing, and politics.

The faithful could still go these places. But instead of wasting time worshipping an entity who may not even exist, or listening to some windbag tell them how to live, let them be useful and work around the place. They can still tithe, but their money would go toward providing community services to benefit EVERYONE, not furthering their religious agenda.

The only way to achieve lasting worldwide peace is to abolish all religions. Separation of church and state would become irrelevant.

The solution is so simple, you’d think some human would propose it. But I’m not holding my breath it will ever be Palin.

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17 Responses to Does Ground Zero Need a Mosque?

  1. MorganLF says:

    I could not agree more. It’s a shame what was once such a progressive and enlightened religion has regressed into a band of religious jihadists.

    Placing a Mosque at ground zero is a very clear nose thumbing and I admit it tweaks me a bit. By the way why is there no full disclosure as to where the funds (rumored to be $100 million) are coming from?

    Perhaps if the Arab nations were more tolerant of all religions as we are here it would be easier to swallow. What would happen if Christians were to erect a Cathedral on hallowed ground in their countries?
    I just don’t think that could happen.

  2. catsworking says:

    Morgan, there was a great Op/Ed in the Richmond Times-Dispatch today by Qasim Rashid, a student at the University of Richmond School of Law, that got me thinking about this…

    http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/oped/2010/jul/22/ed-rashid22-ar-346125/

    One of his points was, “Prophet Muhammad required that a Muslim must never practice his faith in a manner that offends his non-Muslim neighbors.” Muhammad would assuredly think a mosque near Ground Zero is a BAD idea.

    I think if NOBODY practices any faith, then NOBODY gets offended. With Israel and the Palestinians, just take religion out of the equation and their whole beef falls apart. They could forget about what’s “holy,” just draw a damn border, and everybody mind their own business going forward.

    Organized religion does nothing but breed irrational jealousy, contempt, and hatred because almost all of it is based on irrational beliefs.

    I say, if somebody wants to believe in some deity and pray to it in the privacy of their home, go ahead. Everybody should have a hobby. But DON’T start building churches, mosques, or anything else where people gather to egg each other on with how “superior” or “chosen” they are, because we all know that only leads to trouble.

    You made a good point, Morgan. You don’t see Christians building cathedrals in the Muslim world because IT MIGHT OFFEND THEM. Muhammad would approve. Ironic, isn’t it?

  3. Adele says:

    Adele, I’m pretty much with you. I think everyone is entitled to his or her religious belief (or lack thereof) but since acts of charity are at the heart of all religions, all religious institutions should walk that walk.

    Morgan,I continue to believe that you can’t paint all Muslims with the same brush and that there are fanatics in any religion, but the big problem with religion is that it separates humans rather than bringing them together.

    Adele, too bad Bill Maher is a dog person, otherwise if he read this post, he’d be inviting you out to California and treating you to reefer mixed with your catnip.

  4. Tuxi says:

    Hi Adele! You hit the proverbial nail right on the noggin! My mom Joan says the Christians gave it bad to cats for several centuries and even the Plague didn’t teach the hoodlums anything. In the Salem Witch Trials and the 1600s in general we were treated in the most horrible ways and all due to Christian superstition and paranoia. If a woman was seen speaking to her cat(s) she was branded a witch and all were killed. Mom says we cats should be worshipped as we were in ancient Egypt. As you said, and Mom too, cats don’t start wars and we sure as hell don’t influence a bunch of arrogant, heartless and hypocritical assholes like the Republican party!

  5. Tuxi says:

    By the way, Mom went from being a Catholic until age 17, to an agnostic, then to an athiest. She said as alot of churches fell into the Christian Coalition and the political pulpit, and the Catholic church became a pedophile’s dream, so went her belief in all things religion. She holds more of a belief in nature and humanity than someone preaching at her.

  6. Tuxi says:

    And now she’s a Cat-holic! Tuxi

  7. catsworking says:

    Adele, since acts of charity are “at the heart of all religions,” when why specify what’s Christian charity, Jewish charity, Muslim charity…? Just throw it all in one pot and let everybody be kind to everyone.

    And this business of calling God Allah, Jehovah, Muhammad, Buddha, whatever. You know God doesn’t care, so why make these superficial distinctions?

    Cats and other animals don’t need to worship some spooky, unproven being to feel proud and confident and know right from wrong. Why do people?

  8. catsworking says:

    Tuxi, Karen says she has followed pretty much the same path as your mom, and now I think she’s an orthodox Cat-holic, too!

  9. Noel McWormald says:

    While I agreed with Adele’s argument from the start, I checked back here to see if anyone writing comments would be hopping mad that Adele had stepped on their religious toes. I’m surprised to see that there are no comments like that. It proves that Catsworking is THE place to go for news. As my mother’s facebook page says under Religious Views: “The Golden Rule Says it All.” Under Political Views, she wrote “See Religious Views.” I, like most cats of many colors (calico by birth) reject the notion that one NEEDS a particular religion to be a good cat. One needs a MORAL COMPASS. Everything else is so personal, if it must be practiced, should be practiced in a closet. And, in the unlikely event that she’s wrong and Buddha, Allah, Jehovah, or God should be waiting at the rarified pearly gates, I have a feeling She/He will look at a record of good deeds and say, “come on in!” It’s a win-win-win-win situation. p.s. Don’t get me started on the holier-than-thou Baptists with their argument that “you’ll burn in hell if you haven’t been ‘saved’,” They are putting themselves ABOVE their own God which should land their hypocritical asses in a burning ring of fire–Johnny Cash style.

  10. catsworking says:

    Hi, Noel! I was half-expecting maybe some push-back, or even a little fatwa, but what you see here is all that’s come in.

    On the other hand, I’m not picking on Muslims at all. I’m advocating an even playing field for EVERYBODY by doing away with religion altogether. Anyone who disagrees with that would be doing exactly what I’m talking about — setting up their belief as superior and worth perpetuating. And we just go around in circles.

    I don’t think being a good cat or a good person has to have any label attached to it. No matter which name they go by, most organized religions boil down to similar core beliefs, and they’re just a means of enriching certain fat cats at the top who control the thoughts and behavior of all the dumb little people on the bottom who keep them in power.

    The animal world manages to get along just fine without appointing ultimate spiritual rulers — even sheep! Why can’t people?

  11. Tuxi says:

    Because people aren’t as smart as animals! Our ancestors in the very early days had to:1) Make sure we ate, 2) Make sure we didn’t get eaten, 3) Get a good mate and procreate and 4) Survive to live another day. And that’s the same for humans. Well, that is until they had some time to sit around and think. Then that really messed things up!

  12. catsworking says:

    Tuxi, you are so wise. Of course animals haven’t bogged themselves down with too much thinking. We are too busy BEING. It’s more fun, anyway.

  13. MorganLF says:

    Religion served a purpose, once. Plain facts are our country was founded by a group of men who specifically avoided entangling goverment and religion, regardless of what the religious right is trying to put over. The original coservative movement espoused by Golwater in the early 60’s had nothing to do with mixing Christ (or Allah) and politics. It can serve no purpose to define yourself by your religion. Its a private matter and needs to be kept that way. I am equally offended by any public displays of religion and suspect those who need the attention. Go home and pray, spend your money helping those in need instead of erecting shameless monuments of excess.

  14. Imabear says:

    One of the major problems with religion is the “god told me I’m right and you’re wrong” attitude that pretty much eliminates any basis for dialogue. What might have started as charitable love quickly turned into “my god’s better than yours” and/or “my interpretation of what god says is the only right one” – both used as an excuse to persecute, exploit and murder all who disagreed. There are countless examples of how religion has been twisted into a rationalization to evil. Why more people can’t see that, I’ve no idea.

  15. catsworking says:

    Imabear, the humans who sit in pews every Sunday having their egos stroked that they’re superior or “chosen” are just mindless sheeple. It’s easier to have someone to herd them and tell them how to think and act than to figure out right from wrong for themselves.

  16. Tuxi says:

    What I couldn’t get over was when that one commander during the beginning of the Iraq War told someone there that ‘My God is bigger than your God!’, like they were going to have a schoolyard fight! That was immature enough for Dubya to have said. What a load of bullshit! I don’t think these humans have any idea of what assholes they are!

  17. catsworking says:

    Tuxi, the joke will be on all of them when they get to heaven (I’m being optimistic here) and find out they’ve been fighting and killing over a bunch of aliases they’ve assigned to the same being.

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